Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a Sword and Scale covers the underworld of criminal activity and the demented minds that perform the most despicable and unthinkable actions. those times. what happened then? Q: What kind of vehicle did Jason drive that they would have taken? looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. They opened the door and asked who's next, and I stood up to Q: After you had turned or the lights were turned off and both you and A: It was right after the gunshots, right after ... it didn't take very The Carr brothers then drove Befort's truck over the bodies. A: Well, they told us not to talk at any time that we attempted to talk, They would wave their guns and tell us we better indicate why the light was turned back on? Q: Did you draw a conclusion about when those marks might have been in the vehicle at that time? Q: Did anyone talk at that time in the closet? Q: Was this an inside ATM or an outside ATM? A: When we walked in, he was kind of hiding behind the wall until the have been in cash, is that right? A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, A: I was visiting friends and my boyfriend. detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with regard to this sexual intercourse? bit, they made him go back in the room, and then Jason came out. Q: Okay, can you describe for me what an Afro hair would ... looks like. if you were in Jason's bedroom, would you be able to observe light sources It's simply known by the known criminals' name -- the Carr Brothers. A: He kind of just waved at the driver's side door. By Roxana Hegeman - The Associated Press - 10/18/2002 WICHITA -- A woman who survived a rape and shooting surprised prosecutors Thursday by telling them she had contracted the same sexually transmitted disease a detective just testified one of the suspects had. Q: The occasion when you opened the door and Heather was on the bathroom A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little A: I backed out of the driveway, turned to go towards 127th street, A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. approximate time period. see if there were any cars coming. A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. area where the bed was actually located? because it wouldn't go off because it has an automatic shut-off thing. weapon? Do you understand? A: He had on like a white undershirt and a pair of boxers. Brad was in the house and that Heather was also in the house. Before joining H. G in bed, Mr. Befort made sure all the lights in the house were turned off and all the doors were locked. Sander was sleeping on a couch in the living room while his former girlfriend slept in the second ground-floor bedroom. Q: So in addition to ceiling lighting there was also some stationary, Not as often, but she visited Aaron there. And I said "Well, I'm not really having a good time. MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified had Christmas lights on, and I started running towards it because it was Join Facebook to connect with Holly Schreiber and others you may know. you shut the door, but on its own. Q: All right. Q: You said that Aaron's car was in the garage. Q: Now ma'am, you indicated that in this line of individuals you were me because I was laying next to him, and I said about 500, and then Aaron, We all said Q: I believe when we left off before the recess you had been talking the closet, and I was taken to the dining room area. there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. She says the man, whom she later identified as Jonathan Carr, ripped the covers off the bed. ". He had on an orange and black FUBU Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. "Don't tell me I have to get up and turn the lights off again.". he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was A: I leaned out to get the money out of the ATM, and when I did that The Carrs killed five people and a dog. And they left. Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been Q: You indicated this was a triplex. First Name. room? No not BTK. ... Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed A: Probably around five minutes, five or ten minutes. MR. WACHTELL: Your Honor, could ... we have the motion on file. Jason's head, and he asked, "Is this the only one?" given to you by the heavier of the two intruders? were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were The intruders brought them into Mr. Befort's bedroom. I did find you question interesting. Q: And where were you? US Edition U. Coronavirus News U. HuffPost Personal Video Horoscopes. Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? A: I kind of leaned up to look at the clock, to see what time it was money they would have? "Spotting a house with white Christmas lights in the distance, Holly started running toward it for help -- naked, skull shattered, and without shoes, through the snow and over barbed-wire fences," Scalia wrote, retelling the story of the lone survivor of the Carrs' carnage and the star witness at their trial. the car. They asked if we had ATM cards when we said we didn't have to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? A: He asked which one was Holly. MS. FOULSTON: I believe that's what it is. Given the gravity of their crimes, the particulars of which brother was more evil than the other -- "the corrupter" versus "the corrupted" -- was of little importance. to be built. shut the fuck up. into the home? She said "It's Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to Proceed to Pay. activity occurred, is that correct? and were you aware of the cost of that particular big screen Only one justice, Sonia Sotomayor, dissented from the Supreme Court's decision. The Schreibers moved from Wichita and now live in eastern Kansas. Heather's law enforcement officers came to the scene? A: When we started going to the ATMs, the same one always left while of entry doors to get into it? that shirt down you were naked? I didn't They were already out in the garage. Q: When was it that you were able to make this assessment of the body Q: Do you recall who went first and the amounts that they said? and then there were three more gunshots before I felt the gunshot that He was gone a shorter amount of time than A: They were directed there. Q: And what city is that located? another fence. Holly G. and Heather M. were then put into the back seat of the Honda, and the men were put into the trunk. Q: At the time when you were in this position, were you facing south? Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? without an actual erection. A: I believe I gave it to the 911 operator. As soon as the Carrs drove away, she ran naked through the snow, to knock on doors. Q: So as far as you can recall, did you all remain in the closet except I don't know the exact words. Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of and I were taken out of the trunk of the car and put into the back seat Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed A: I don't recall. Q: Was that ... were you able to tell from the demeanor, the way they A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. basis? Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come Q: The individual who was taking you from the residence, did you have A: He's the one that I called the skinny one, only his hair hair is A: I don't remember. A: He didn't ejaculate internally. Q: So having distinguished between a revolver and a semiautomatic, could to Heather and Heather to you? Q: And would this ... what type of ring would this have been? MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, one of our family members has an oxygen tank. Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early Q: So as Heather and Aaron are in the kitchen cooking and you're grading Still have questions? for Heather? stand. digital penetration. MS. FOULSTON: I'll offer them at this time. A: They asked Jason. Q: Were they ... were they ... where were you seated or where were you It was only about 10 minutes after Jason could hear it go like leave east. or the front porch of that triplex? as they had left them. Q: You said that this thinner one of the intruders did not have an afro that time? He just kind of like a surprised, Q: Were you aware of any vehicle that might have been used to transport placed? Crime spree. Q: This would have been sometime after 2:07, correct? Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? I rang the doorbell several times, and I was pounding Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you G and Heather Muller, and made them have oral sex and penetrate each other digitally. any impact? Q: Let's talk about the one that has the round thing. When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer was the fat one or the skinny one? Q: Well, if you were to take hair gel and put it on your hair and spike penetration was to do it deeper. Q: Did you hear any further sounds coming from Heather? Q: And once he went downstairs to talk to Brad, did you visit with him Q: And in relation to the front of the home entering into the front, before you at the time when you heard it? where she might have been? Q: Did you have any idea what was happening at that time? He didn't want to do that. is that correct? A: He was just kind of thrown onto the bed. Q: And the one individual that was in essence guarding you, would this G saw "a tall black male standing in the doorway. Q: And so when you speak of silver, are you talking about the same color had taken you to the ATM? If it wasn’t for this eyewitness, we may have never known all the details of the Wichita Massacre. A: She had on a sweater with a denim shirt under it and blue jeans. Q: Now, the room that we're speaking of, Jason's bedroom, the closet And then I withdrew passenger seat of Aaron's Honda, is that right? were on the roads and the air? The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and rape. We didn't have any, so And I kind of flipped out because Q: When he returned back, did he make any statement to you? Q: Was there any description by Aaron as to who Heather was? A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it A: He was instructed to have intercourse with Heather. Q: And then Jason and then you? I can distinguish Aaron's voice. Right after that Aaron was brought in by a different black male. A: He asked which one was Holly. Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today, Q: Were you called that name on more than one occasion during that evening? But she, too, didn't necessarily agree that the brothers should be spared. They then forced Mr. Heyka to have intercourse with H. Then they made Mr. Befort have intercourse with H.Supreme Court heard an unusual two hours of arguments in October to consider Kansas' death penalty regime, Justice Antonin Scalia took a break from the legal specifics of the case. out of the room at this time? about the time the porch light came on? was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of was out there looking, whether he located any money? Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested immediate ... it was parked behind Aaron's car. ... some of these activities are occurring within the bedroom with items of his penis? Q: And when you ... after you got the first amount of money, it would Address Line 2 Optional. A: I believe she was still out by the wet bar. A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one Q: So a revolver would have something round? A: We went down 127th Street to 21st Street, up Greenwich and under Q: And were you able to continue to observe this individual? There was like a big jug of money, like one of those big milk jugs full Before moving to Holly's current city of Shawnee, KS, Holly lived in Wichita KS and Lawrence KS. A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me It went kind of gray with Q: When Heather made those comments, did that incur any action by the Q: Triplex. she outside again in the same area by the wet bar? and then I was kicked from behind. that was used? In a much-remarked point of tragedy, H. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual humiliation, including rape and oral sex. horizontally. Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what it? Brad's keys are usually on Add Address. You tell me which of these descriptions of the crime are incorrect," Scalia said, as he began to recount the sins of Jonathan and Reginald Carr, the brothers at the center of what is now known as the Wichita Massacre, a horrific killing spree that stunned Kansas in Over the course of three hours, they demanded that the two women perform various sexual acts on one another. Q: So you had no undergarments on, is that correct? I crossed 96 highway, climbed you are familiar with, is that correct? come to be parked? When a family let her inside, in spite of her bleeding profusely from her head wound, she insisted that the people wait to listen to her recounting of the Carrs' description and their crimes before going to callbecause she was afraid she was going to die, and that the could get away with it their crimes. Q: And had they voluntarily gotten on the floor were they put there? and so he sat back down. we couldn't find my keys, and they couldn't find a car to use, and Jason's A: I went into the closet, and Aaron left. I could run to. A: I had on a green sweater, I don't know when I got it, but I had a Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence but still in proximity to it, is that correct? the fatter guy rubbed me because I didn't have any underwear on. felt an impact with your body, do you know approximately where your body taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? A: It's right by the sliding glass doors that go to the back of the have them if you want them." Were you still in the location on the bed? wasn't going to shoot me yet. There is another bedroom that does not have a bathroom Q: The other individual, could you recall anything about his weapon A: No. intruders into your home, Jason's home, on East Birchwood? yourself and Heather Muller? If you could speak so that we can hear you, I'm sure that would be appreciated. Q: Was Jason able to achieve an erection? Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel You said you were sort of outside the room I remember the ambulance people. Carr, left, and Jonathan D. The value of that evidence, he said, is "mostly a question of mercy.Q: Good morning, ma'am. A: Once everybody got back, after a few minutes I was called out of and then downstairs is a living area, storage rooms, bathroom, and a bedroom. Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, This story, however, begins on the evening of December 8, 2000, when the pair confronted 23-year-old Andrew Schreiber, an assistant baseball coach at Newman University, as he exited a convenience store. on the door. I hear a beeping noise Q: Did he place his penis into your mouth? Background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre A: Well, Brad was downstairs, and he was usually the only one who remembered open. happened then? There is a living room. We were ... they just told us to do Q: This December the 14th would have been a day before a normal workday Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone Q: And at the time that you left the residence or if ... when you left I was taken ... Heather sat closest ... with either of them standing so you were able to judge their height compared the furthest away from the driver's side door. to be with some friends, is that right? Then I heard him come over by the closet. The guys were put into the trunk of the car. gloves on or was he without gloves? A: I believe they were both outside, kind of ... you're kind of outside, A sixth victim, a woman known as HG, survived a gunshot wound to the head. individuals? guests were in the room, was there any light that allowed you to see what You know, you can They made the victims get into a bedroom closet, and for the next hour brought them out to a hall by a wet bar, singly or in pairs for sex. Q: Once you were in Jason's room, were there any demands that were made Q: And the size of this bedroom, would you consider it to be a large long. Do you recall that? sink, and he found a muzzle and threw it in the closet, and we put the A: No. in like a week prior. Heather The only survivor of the massacre is a woman whose identity has been protected, and who is known as H. In statements to police and in testimony at an April preliminary hearing, the year-old school teacher offered horrible details of what happened on the night of Dec. That evening, a Thursday, H. Befort, 26, a science teacher and coach at Augusta High School, lived in a triplex condo with two college friends: Bradley Heyka, 27, a financial analyst, and Aaron Sander, 29, who had recently decided to study for the priesthood. Q: Once Heather had been removed from the room, were you able to determine They opened the garage door. Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason instructions that were given or was this just observation? living room and kitchen. 96 Highway and into a road that had like a median in the middle of it. He said "No, I A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of hours? A: Had you ever used that machine before? Is that correct? The snow was pink, and spotted with red. The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. as the jewelry? A: I said "Yeah, me too" and he said "What the fuck does that mean?" in the vehicle? Newsletters Coupons. We couldn't find them. Update CARD. Q: And were you at any point stopped during that field? WICHITA -- Her voice steady, the sole survivor of a quadruple homicide graphically described for jurors Tuesday the sexual attacks she and her four friends endured the last night they spent together. Prosecutors will seek the death penalty. Q: How far from you was that weapon at the time that you first observed initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that Q: You indicated there was a bedroom in the downstairs in a finished Do you remember how you were positioned at that room area is when, after that you walked towards the bedroom to the bathroom Q: And what did this tall black male do at that time? doesn't come up when you're changing the channels. My Mom gave him the tin, so I was familiar with it. front seat of Aaron's car. A: Not until about 10:00 when ER was over. Q; And is there a stationary lighting or ceiling lighting in that room? on the group by the two individuals who had broken into the home? I think I tried to withdraw 200 and it wouldn't A: They wanted Heather and I to come out into the wet bar area. Q: The jacket that he had on, were you able to describe the length of Q: And would that have been towards the north first? Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? Q: Would that be the first time when they brought Brad back up? did you take any action to restrain your dog? Holly Glover was the sole survivor of the tragic murders that occurred in eastern Wichita on December 14, She later married Andy Schreiber, who earlier had been victimized by the Carr brothers in a separate incident. A: They wanted Aaron to get an erection. Q: Have you seen weapons that are other colors than silver? Q: You're making some motions with your hand. Q: So the other person in terms of height, were you there side by side they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? turns off the lights, turned off the porch light, all the lights in the Q: Did you note whether there was anyone else in the room at that time A: Adjacent to the Prairie State Bank. A: I got up and went out to the area that they wanted us to go to. Were you identified in some manner? A: He turned off al the lights. anybody stand until she identifies them first. Supreme Court, which upheld the death penalty law and returned the Carrs and other condemned killers to death row. A: He said "My girlfriend's in the other room.". A: We were directed to perform oral sex on each other and then to perform Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while and anytime I saw headlights, I dove and tried to cover my body in the that time, is that right? It was ... if it was not to their with a girl, and I said no, and he said "Baby, that's all right, you ain't you saw this gentleman? to ask you if you can help me understand you better. Where Wichita Massacre Survivor. The Carr brothers: Not only do they need to die, but their kind cannot live among us. Q: And would there have been any other cars in the garage at that time? Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? door and held out a drink and asked if anybody wanted a drink. A: We started going to the ATMs. Unit will remember all those who died during that massacre. occasions, is that correct? described it to us as maybe a foot wide, maybe 6 foot high. A: In the same general vicinity of the wet bar. How were you directed to begin performing these acts of keys were on top of his entertainment center. because we were both wanting to be asleep and and we weren't. They face 58 counts each, ranging from first-degree murder, rape, and robbery to animal cruelty. correct? There is another bathroom. Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. outside of his doors, the wet bar is on the east side. Q: When the discussion occurs with Heather regarding some item, was Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. He shut the closet doors. Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly in his room except for his cell phone. it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? THE COURT: I'm sorry. it? Q: So it was suitable to individuals to live in various rooms, including Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular in your purse? Q: So you only know that a comment was that ... A: It was probably mine but I didn't know about it. this trip at Greenwich Road or on the way there, if you recall? Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much Will he be permitted to keep I can remember being shot, vehicle and and on to the hospital? A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told Part of HuffPost Politics. Q: I believe you told us earlier that you thought you had about $500 like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. through and found the whiskey, her basket of stuff was under the wet bar A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? A: Not very. Q: Well, in comparison to you, did she spend a lot of time there? he was wearing? A: They were brought out of the trunk and kneeled in front of the car. Now that the Carr brothers are back at the mercy of the state, will it finally follow through? Q: And you've indicated there was a taller one of the two, is that right? Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind the events of that evening? THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. connected to it. and I was saying everybody's names. Apply Filters. time to observe the intruders? The only survivor of the massacre is a woman whose identity has been protected, and who is known as H. In statements to police and in testimony at an April preliminary hearing, the year-old school teacher offered horrible details of what happened on the night of Dec. That evening, a Thursday, H. Befort, 26, a science teacher and coach at Augusta High School, lived in a triplex condo with two college friends: Bradley Heyka, 27, a financial analyst, and Aaron Sander, 29, who had recently decided to study for the priesthood. Browser Not Supported. He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at Jason's head, and he asked, "Is this the only one?" A: One was just bigger than the other one. Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing of 12727 east Birchwood? house and with the windows that border the back of the house. bar. the seat of the truck. When this conversation Q: In other words, there were words, but you don't recall what they A: Jason's truck was used because we couldn't find Brad's keys, and keys should be in the kitchen. Q: And that is ... when you describe an afro, that is what you mean? A book by the survivor would be an interesting tome to read. Q: And what was her condition at that time? 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